On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. I am gonna give it a try. This is safe, yes? The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Does it make a difference? Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! Used for my 9mm loads mostly. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Thanks all. Unique. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined You say that now. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I want to be safe. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Upload or insert images from URL. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. So filling up half way looks normal. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. I don't pay so much attention to the bullet manufacturer when loading. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. Then work up from there. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. No issues there. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. Use the LRN and you will be good. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Upgrade efforts paused for now. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. JavaScript is disabled. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. Nov 7, 2015. Both Plated round nose and JHP. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. Can't keep enough at the house. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. . and 8 lb. and 8 lb. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. Skip this one, you can do better. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Clear editor. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. BrianEnos.com Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. looking4reloadingdeals In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. My brother gave me some Titegroup. JavaScript is disabled. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. It's accurate and reliable. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Thanks for your patience. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. Nuff said. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. I do know its about mid charge range tho. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel.